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In 2005, police in Palm Beach, Florida, began investigating Epstein after a parent reported that he had sexually abused her 14-year-old daughter.[7] Epstein pleaded guilty and was convicted in 2008 by a Florida state court of procuring a child for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute.[4][8] He served almost 13 months in custody, but with extensive work release. He was convicted of only these two crimes as part of a controversial plea deal; federal officials had identified 36 girls, some as young as 14 years old, whom Epstein had allegedly sexually abused.[9][10]

Epstein was arrested again on July 6, 2019, on federal charges for the sex trafficking of minors in Florida and New York.[11][12] He died in his jail cell on August 10, 2019.[13] The medical examiner ruled that his death was a suicide by hanging.[14] Epstein's lawyers have disputed the ruling, and there has been significant public skepticism about the true cause of his death, resulting in numerous conspiracy theories.[15][16] Since Epstein's death precluded the possibility of pursuing criminal charges against him, a judge dismissed all criminal charges on August 29, 2019.[17][18] Epstein had a decades-long association with the British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, leading to her 2021 conviction on U.S. federal charges of sex trafficking and conspiracy for helping him procure girls, including a 14-year-old, for child sexual abuse and prostitution.[19][20][21][22]

After the accusations became public, several persons and institutions returned donations that they had received from Epstein, including Eliot Spitzer, Bill Richardson,[124] and the Palm Beach Police Department.[95] Harvard University announced it would not return any money.[124] Various charitable donations that Epstein had made to finance children's education were also questioned.[116]

On July 22, 2019, while in jail awaiting trial, Epstein was served with a petition regarding a pending state civil lawsuit filed by Jennifer Araoz.[166] She stated that an associate for Epstein had recruited her outside Talent Unlimited High School at age 14 and she was gradually groomed for over a year before Epstein raped her in his New York City mansion when she was 15.[167] Araoz filed her suit on August 14, 2019, when New York State law was updated to allow one year for adult survivors of child sexual abuse to sue for previous offenses, regardless of how long ago the abuse took place.[168] In October 2019, Araoz amended her complaint to include over 20 corporate entities associated with Epstein and named the additional individuals Lesley Groff and Cimberly Espinosa as enablers.[169]

A lawsuit was filed in Superior Court of the U.S. Virgin Islands in January 2020 alleging that Epstein ran a sex trafficking conspiracy for over two decades, through 2018, with children as young as 11 years old on Epstein's Caribbean islands.[179] According to Attorney General Denise George, his alleged criminal activities on the islands were concealed through a complex network of companies.[179]

Footage of Trump and Epstein talking at the 1992 Mar-a-Lago party appears in the 2020 comedy mockumentary Borat Subsequent Moviefilm, where the footage is shown inspiring Borat to gift his teen daughter to someone in Trump's inner circle (with Borat deciding on Mike Pence, and later Rudy Giuliani). Later in the film, one of Borat's children also changes his name to Jeffrey Epstein.[333][334]

I exist in a world where you havent bothered to familiarize yourself about the topic youre aggressively debating here. These kinds of things are very specifically defined you know - namely, pedophilia commonly means sex with a "child", and "child" means a pre-teen. Sue Lyon was clearly a teenager, not a pre-teen, ie physiologically a young woman. Hence its not pedophilia. "facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

Franzkabuki:I hope you're not saying that an adult having sex with a minor is okay to engage in and not psychologically damaging, therefore, okayI hope you were never sexually abused as a child or adolescent so that what you said in your post wouldn't have been said.It makes no difference that Sue Lyon played Lolita as a 14 year old. Humbert having sex with his 14 year old stepdaughter is pedophilic and incestuous.Have you or would you engage in sex with an under-18 girl

What should be well evident without further inquiry, is that Im saying sex with a 14-year old is not defined as "pedophilic". But of course facts for you "make no difference", so Im obviously wasting my time even replying here. And 18 as a cut-off age is entirely arbitrary as evidenced by the fact that in many countries it is indeed lower than that. "facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

I don't know where you're from, but in my country, having sex with a 14-year-old would make you a pedophile, both legally and morally. Semantics aside, 14-year-old girls are still basically children, much too immature and underdeveloped to be fair game for middle-aged creeps.I do think that changing her age from 12 to 14 reduces the impact somewhat, but I still consider Humbert to be a pedophile. After all, it was conceived as a story about pedophilia, whether you like it or not .

Defining pedophilia has got nothing to do with any laws or morality (and even less with what anyone might privately "consider") and everything to do with physiology - and the vast majority of 14-year olds are not children. Whether or not theyre psychologically mature enough to sleep with middle-aged men, is a different topic altogether."facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

On a Psychological basis, a pedophile is characterized as being attracted to a prepubescent child, OR a child 13 years or younger. You can decide that 14 years to be a child, but physiologically, age doesn't define your childhood as much as puberty does.Also, what country do you live in In the US, the American Psychology Association has in fact defined pedophilia as sexual feelings for 13 OR YOUNGER. Read the DSM-IV to see for yourself. Those who argue a 14 year old is a child is purely on a sociological basis, NOT physiological. Does this mean Humbert having sex with a 14 year old is morally alright Absolutely not, but that doesn't automatically make it pedophilia. My Novel: -alan-dj/1107079914ean=29400328262 93

It wasn't a real threat. I honestly thought I was being funny. I was drunk and made a mistake. I subsequently tried to apologise, both in this thread and via PM, but you had already put me on ignore (as well as called me a psychopath and a dimwit), which was most unfortunate. You would have found me a lot more reasonable than that post indicated.I also knew exactly what you were saying all along. I simply had an issue with what I regarded as unjustified arrogance and condescension on your part. When it comes down to it, I really can't argue against your point. Strict definition of pedophilia does refer solely to pre-pubescent girls.Anyway, I'm truly sorry for attacking you like that, weird joke or not. I was way out of line.

You didn't articulate your opinion very well than, because somehow it came off as you approving of Humbert's actions. Unfortunately it doesn't go without saying, because there are a lot of people who defend him. I agree that technically he wasn't a pedophile (I've learned a new word: ephebophile), but I think that most 14-year-olds are certainly children. Even a lot of 20-year-olds are children, psychologically. Behaving like an adult is different from thinking like an adult.

Even a lot of 20-year-olds are children, psychologically.---ditto for 70 year olds and for HumbertTHAT [wild oats] is what story [book at least via Annabel] is about, ie the effects of NOT getting wild oats AS a teen at the right time and it then becoming a total obsession.

Have you read the first sentence of the wikipedia definition of pedophilia It includes the word "prepubescent". Find out what that word means, and you might understand. P.S. Where on earth did you get the idea that if something isn't pedophilia it must be okay. Murder isn't pedophilia. Is murder okay

M by Fritz Lang was about a paedophile child murderer and was made in 1931, I'd imagine that was the first. This was probably the first where the offender is seen in a 'relationship' with the victim, maybe--------------------Duty Now For The Future

I wish people would stop quoting Wikipedia for everything.Humbert Humbert is and always has been a straight up pedophile. Obviously, for censorship reasons and to get the movie even played, the film had to be coy about it and age up Lolita a little bit. But he's a pedophile.

We're not talking about the book, but rather the movie. And, in the movie, Lolita is 14 years-old played by a 15 year-old lil' hottie, which means that Hum is an ephebophile, NOT a pedo: =ephebophile+definition&rlz=1C1FGUR_enUS884US884&oq=ephebophile&aqs=chrome.1.69i59j0l7.2476j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Annabel Leigh was Humbert Humbert's innocent childhood love which he tried to recapture with the help of Dolores Haze/Lolita. At least that is what the narrator of Lolita,(1) Vladimir Nabokov's 1955 novel, seems to tell us.

The early 1980s saw the development of moral panics in several jurisdictions, including the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada, around claims of widespread sexual abuse, frequently involving ritual or satanic elements, at child-care or day-care centers (Furedi, 2013; Jenkins, 1998). These allegations were frequently made through therapeutic interventions with children who, it was claimed, had repressed these traumatic incidents until they were uncovered by therapists. The allegations, which at their most severe alleged that there were widespread and well-organized rings of Satanists using day care and other businesses as fronts to abuse children and that millions of children had been abducted for these purposes, generated extensive and sensational media coverage (Best, 1990). 153554b96e

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